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| This is possible in [[:communities]] but gets harder as it becomes more like a [[:space]]. Eventually, irreconcilable [[:objections]] lead to the fragmentation of the group, which naturally keeps it small. That's if no one wants to be ruled. | This is possible in [[:communities]] but gets harder as it becomes more like a [[:space]]. Eventually, irreconcilable [[:objections]] lead to the fragmentation of the group, which naturally keeps it small. That's if no one wants to be ruled. |
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| Consent is not the end all be all, especially in [[:spaces]]. I do not need the consent of others in the space to be gay, to dress a certain way, to remember things that I see, or to tell others the things that I remember. Yes, "I do not consent to see gay people in public" is a real and serious argument, which is why I don't see "I do not consent" as a conversation-ender. (Note: this does not apply to sex; remember that this paragraph only applies to [[:spaces]], and sex is more of a [[:community]] thing, specifically a [[:community]] of usually 2 people). | Consent is not the end all be all, especially in [[:spaces]]. I do not need the consent of others in the space to be gay, to dress a certain way, to remember things that I see, or to tell others the things that I remember. Yes, "I do not consent to see gay people in public" is a real and serious argument, which is why I don't see "I do not consent" as a conversation-ender in [[:spaces]]. (Note: this does not apply to sex; remember that this paragraph only applies to [[:spaces]], and sex is more of a [[:community]] thing, specifically a [[:community]] of usually 2 people). |
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| However, in [[:communities]], if others [[:object]] (i.e. don't consent) to something you're doing, and you [[:object]] back, that's "grounds" for the fragmentation of the group. Which is why [[:tolerance]] is important. | However, in [[:communities]], if others [[:object]] (i.e. don't consent) to something you're doing, and you [[:object]] back, that's "grounds" for the fragmentation of the group. Which is why [[:tolerance]] is important. |
